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Despite what Lucille Bluth believes, vodka doesn’t bad in a few days after opening bottle. Milk goes bad quickly.
Despite what Lucille Bluth believes, vodka doesn’t bad in a few days after opening bottle. Milk goes bad quickly.
I’ve always hated recursion. It’s always seemed like a cutesy programming trick that’s not reliable in all conditions.
You could blow the stack in an edge case that you didn’t think of. So it should never be a standard pattern. It’s only good if you need to rewrite something for optimization and recursion is appropriate. But in many cases recursion is slower.
“Look at what I can do in 5 lines of code!” is for programming contests, not for anything important.
“that electrical stimuli passed between neighboring electrodes can also affect non-neighboring electrodes. Known as non-locality, this discovery is a crucial milestone”
That’s not quantum non locality. The journalist didn’t know how to interpret the actual data.
"Quantum nonlocality does not allow for faster-than-light communication,[6] "
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_nonlocality
Quantum non locality is like taking two playing cards, sealing them in envelopes, mailing one to your friend across the country and then asking him to open it. You will know faster than light which card is in your envelope. But that doesn’t allow information transfer.
Because flatworm neurons can be exactly modeled without adding anything extra.
It’s like if you said, “And we know a falling ball isn’t caused by radiation because?” If you can model a ball dropping in a vacuum without adding any extra variables to your equations, why claim something extra? It doesn’t mean radiation couldn’t affect a falling ball. But adding radiation isn’t needed to explain a falling ball.
The neurons in a flatworm can be modeled without adding quantum effects. So why bother adding in other effects?
And a minor correction, “non local” means faster than light. Quantum effects do not allow faster than light information transfer. Consciousness by definition is information. So even if quantum processes affected neurons macroscopically, there still couldn’t be non local consciousness.
One cubic centimeter of air contains 90,000,000,000,000 atoms. In that context, mean free path is 68nm up to the limits of your ability to measure. That is flip a coin 90 million million times and average the heads and tails. It’s going to be extremely close to 50%.
Not to mention that at 5ghz, the sound can only propagate 68 nm.
Chaos comes into play as a state changes. The poster above you talks about copying the state. Once copied the two states will diverge because of chaos. But that doesn’t preclude consciousness. It means the copy will soon have different thoughts.
"I’d like to talk to her, but first I have to cover half the distance between where we are and where she is, then half of the distance that remains, then half of that distance, and so on. The series is infinite. "
I get it’s a joke but that’s a bad joke. That’s a convergent series. It’s not infinite. Any 1st year calculus student would know that.
"it’s that in theory analog carries infinite information. "
But in reality it can’t. The universe isn’t continous, it’s discrete. That’s why we have quantum mechanics. It is the math to handle non contiguous transitions between states.
How much of that fidelity can you lose before it’s not your consciousness?
That can be tested with c elegans. You can measure changes until a difference is propagated.
There aren’t infinite frequencies.
“The mean free path in air is 68nm, and the mean inter-atomic spacing is some tens of nms about 30, while the speed of sound in air is 300 m/s, so that the absolute maximum frequency is about 5 Ghz.”
That reads like something ChatGPT wrote.
I read that and the summary is, “Here are current physical models that don’t explain everything. Therefore, because science doesn’t have an answer it could be magic.”
We know consciousness is attached to the brain because physical changes in the brain cause changes in consciousness. Physical damage can cause complete personality changes. We also have a complete spectrum of observed consciousness from the flatworm with 300 neurons, to the chimpanzee with 28 billion. Chimps have emotions, self reflection and everything but full language. We can step backwards from chimps to simpler animals and it’s a continuous spectrum of consciousness. There isn’t a hard divide, it’s only less. Humans aren’t magical.
As I tell my students if you are looking for a binary event to start modeling, look to individual ions moving across the membrane.
So it’s not infinite and can be digitized. :)
But to be more serious, digitized analog recordings is a bad analogy because audio can be digitized and perfectly reproduced. Nyquist- Shannon theory means the output can be perfectly reproduced. It’s not approximate. It’s perfect.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist–Shannon_sampling_theorem
Primal is how Spear sees himself. Dexter’s Lab is how Dexter sees Spear.
What is in bad faith? I hold the premise that nothing has specifically changed that would make people actually like the sunrise/sunset time change given it was tried before.
You claimed “technology” without giving specific reasons. You claimed renewable energy despite it only being 20% of today’s energy generation.
You are the one who is making bad faith arguments. Then you are getting mad because you have nothing to support your opinion.
This isn’t reddit.
80% isn’t renewable right now. And you didn’t answer why that should matter to sunrise/sunset?
Also why do you downvote all posts? Are my replies off topic?
technological advancement is exponential
But what specifically about the technology means you want the sunrise time to be different?
s geothermal, hydro, and wind.
None of those are a currently a significant percentage of energy usage. Nor do they have relation to sunrise/sunset that would require a change.
2/3 of Americans polled wanting permanent DST,
Yes Americans want permanent DST like in 1970.
massive technological advancement,
Why specifcally would cause a need for a change in sunrise/sunset?
There was massive technological change from 1920 to 1970 when it was given up for 2 years before it was changed back.
ever-growing proportion of renewable energy?
The current shift to solar would mean an even greater need to synchronize energy use with sunlight.
If the list is so long, then it should be easy to list one thing that is different today that would make people not want DST.
I don’t need a list. Just one example.
So because you read the news on your phone instead of the newspaper somehow everything is different with the sunrise?
What is so different today that people wouldn’t change their mind again about DST?
Unless you are at an extremely expensive or extremely small restaurant, their sauces come premade in a bag from Cisco.