Just early upvotes.
I was a bit worried because those early votes had a very large positive ratio and that could mean a very drastic culture shift since the last one of these posts, which obviously wouldn’t bode well, not just for Lemmy.world but for interactions from it as well on other instances.
Well you see, since Lemmy.world is a large instance, the vast majority of the Lemmy network actually. Such decisions ultimately affect everyone else because they slash your engagement severely in all affected communities.
So even on other instances the decisions of a behemoth like lemmy.world can still affect users there, in way more indirect and annoying ways.
Yup, and this time it seems like they’re getting more support from the community than downvotes (or they’re upvoting their own post).
I guess that makes sense considering just how much bigger Lemmy.world is. Bigger instances are bound to take longer to update.
sh.itjust.works Managed to finish in only 27 minutes which was much sooner than the estimated time. Lemmy.world might finish quickly too, estimated time is just a maximum, it isn’t always going to be the amount of time it will take.
All users will have to login again, 2FA was completely reset, so people who were locked out are now back in.
Yeah it would be good if more communities and instances chose to enforce setting a language, they can do that by excluding unspecified from their community which will disallow people to make posts there that don’t have the language set. Obviously nothing can be really done for posts that don’t set the language, as well as for most apps which don’t set the language whatsoever, or have really weird ways of doing it.
Yeah I just want to make sure people know so they don’t get their hopes up and get disappointed or frustrated that it doesn’t act like personal defederation.
That is very likely what I’ll use it for as well, since I basically stopped browsing all due to the NSFW communities who’s posts would pop-up randomly in it, sometimes even unflaired 😬.
filter out instances that are in a language I don’t speak.
I’d avoid that as it’s a bit overkill and many of those instances may also have English-speaking communities. A better solution is to exclude the languages you don’t speak from your settings so the posts and comments won’t appear for you.
Just don’t be too excited since it only blocks communities on instances, not the users on it.
Excerpt from Join-Lemmy.org
Users can now block instances. Similar to community blocks, it means that any posts from communities which are hosted on that instance are hidden. However the block doesn’t affect users from the blocked instance, their posts and comments can still be seen normally in other communities.
It’s still definitely useful, but it’s not as great as it’s been hyped, and won’t solve the spam problems from specific instances.
That is a fair point, and I would agree if the only people calling for threads defederation were the snowflakes (the overly sensative opininated users you speak of). However many people have highlighted important reasons why threads federation isn’t a good idea.
Reasons such as:
So while there are some bad and dumb reasons people argue for defederation there are legitimate concerns over this and threads.
I feel like the sensitive snowflake users ruin it for people who have legitimate and valid concerns, they undermine efforts to make spaces better because people are so used to dealing with them that when a person brings up something that could be a problem or should be addressed the default response is to dismissively just tell them to block users or instances, under the assumption that a user is one of those snowflakes. (It happened back with the Rammy situation, when the user posted to alert the fediverse that their instance was rogue).
Personally I feel like there should be more severity when it comes to users who make false/opinionated claims so that any claims in general aren’t treated as false or non-credible by default, but I also realize that would be difficult given the size of the instance and also isn’t really my pace to decide since I’m not responsible for user moderation outside of my own communities or ones I mod in.
Just some things to think about. Also sorry for the late response, been having trouble on my Lemmy app. I guess better late than never though (lot of times it is never when I’m late to check or respond).
From the changelog:
Users can now block instances. Similar to community blocks, it means that any posts from communities which are hosted on that instance are hidden. However the block doesn’t affect users from the blocked instance, their posts and comments can still be seen normally in other communities.
Not how instance blocking seems to work in 0.19, it’s the equivalent of community blocking, won’t affect users or their posts. So not a replacement to defederation or moderation.
This stance is very weird since it implies that users are entitled to something on a server we don’t own or control, but really we’re as entitled to federation as we are to these accounts. An admin can ban your account off their server forever because they felt like it, and those same admins can defederate your favorite server for the same reason. The difference between the fediverse and social media is that there are other instances with different rules you can go, and different federation stances. Your freedom is having other options.
Plus this is made even easier given that Lemmy now has a native way to export user settings in 0.19, which definitely does make life much easier for those who wish to migrate.
From the changelog:
Users can now export their data (community follows, blocklists, profile settings), and import it again on another instance. This can be used for account migrations and also as a form of backup. The export format is designed to remain unchanged for a long time. You can make regular exports, and if the instance becomes unavailable, register a new account and import the data. This way you can continue using Lemmy
Want to say this because the release notes make it perfectly clear. Instance blocking is not and cannot be considered an alternative to defederation.
Users can now block instances. Similar to community blocks, it means that any posts from communities which are hosted on that instance are hidden. However the block doesn’t affect users from the blocked instance, their posts and comments can still be seen normally in other communities.
Not a replacement for defederation, it’s still needed to keep instances healthy. Plus the fact that Lemmy doesn’t really even have blocks, they’re just mutes called blocks (which are only useful under the assumption that the blocked account is innocent, and the blocker is just having a fit or doesn’t have credibility), if we had a way to restrict malicious users then I would say being more hands off isn’t that bad but as it stands there isn’t so defederation and moderation is still important and can’t be substituted with blocking.
Kind of like Imgur, it’s a barebones Image hosting server which is what Lemmy uses to serve images uploaded to the instance. It makes it easier otherwise people would need to use things like catbox or imgur itself to host images.
I do feel like support could be better with it though, like if it gave us an interface where we could access our images from our account, or at the very least one for admins.
Lemmy.World Mascot emoji would be cool
I do wonder why we didn’t defederate from them long ago, it’s not like they recently started showing signs of who and what they really are, they’ve been very transparent about their motives since day 1. Still though good it was done now before they started spamming things here (not sure if they do that or if it’s just hexbear that spams).
Have you tried patching the app? I was able to do it with Infinity and it worked just fine.
I didn’t bother to export mine since they’re mostly Lemmy.world communities and at the time I was under the impression that they were either going to start banning dbzer0 users who participated in !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com or defederate altogether. So I just subscribed to different communities on there, such as the lemmy.ml or sopuli.xyz equivalents since in both of those possibilities the lemmy.world communities wouldn’t be usable for me.
Intellectual property is still property, and the value of that property pretty much depends on the ability to control the distribution of copies of that property.
When you phrase it that way you show that it’s artificial value based on their ability to bully and strongarm others into submission. Which is exactly what massive corporations do, sometimes even going the extra mile even though they know they won’t get money out of it (Nintendo does this exact thing).
In fairness that task would likely fall on server hosters and server software maintainers as Microsoft and Mojang only provide the Authentication services and Game Jar file repository. They have little incentive to provide more than the bare minimum since their primary concern is updating and maintaining the game itself, servers are a secondary concern to them.
Trying to avoid people seeing it because they’ll get more backlash and probably lose donators and rightfully so. These types of knee-jerk reactions combined with the refusal to address feedback are very concerning.