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Well I’d certainly say they dodged a bullet
Well I’d certainly say they dodged a bullet
Ideally I’d like to say a negative, but I don’t think that’s the case. They were a positive in the sense that they made what MLK was saying far more preferable. I don’t like what that implies though is necessary for change.
It heavily depends how you define an act of terrorism. There’s a difference between acts of terrorism and rebellion, although it isn’t a clear distinction.
Is it a good thing that we’re talking about Israel Palestine though? We’re talking about it because innocent people have died, and Israel is seeming like they’re going to do something horrific to innocent people too. How does this help the Palestinians undergoing genocide? The Hamas attack has turned a lot of sentiment against Palestine, which is unfair for the civilians.
I understand wanting to call attention to an issue, but the manner by which you do that matters a lot. I can bring attention to any issue I want by claiming it as manifesto when I slaughter innocent people, but it isn’t positive attention in the slightest.
The nonviolent protest for civil rights in the US was successful because it was a very palatable alternative to the black panthers. Hamas already exists for Palestine. A nonviolent protest in Israel against their policies would’ve garnered positive attention to them, and possibly even worked.
If you truly believe liberalism is akin to Nazism, I really don’t think there’s anything further productive for us to say to each other.
I hope you’re right.
Uhhhh. No. That’s not how it went at all. Rich Jews did not get to live in comfort, they had their wealth stolen and were killed all the same. Nazism was ethnic cleansing, antisemitism, and purging society of the “unideal”, rich or poor. The only German Jews who I think could get amnesty were those who fought for Germany in WW1 – soldiers do not tend to be rich, and their families were not extended the same amnesty, from what I recall. Otto Frank had military service but it did not save his family.
It’s rather disgusting to ignore the antisemitism and homophobia that led to genocides and reduce it to only economics.
It’s like efficiency of machinery and rotating equipment. It can never reach 100%, but you can try to get close to it. 100% efficiency and communism are both unattainable ideals.
Don’t forget the classical “liberals are the real fascist allies”
Tolerance and peace are both treaties. We agree to leave each other be and not take up arms in exchange for the other to do the same.
You have no obligation to be tolerant of someone who is intolerant or preaches intolerant ideology.
You have no obligation to be peaceful to belligerence and violence.
We are cooperative because it is in our self interest. The only inherent trait of humanity is selfishness. Communist leaders who say some are more equal than others to enrich themselves, capitalists who hoard billions from minimum wage labor – they’re the exact same.
They have some secret source that they all know about that makes them more knowledgeable than everyone else. Because if they had to admit that wasn’t the case, their worldview and arrogance falls apart.
“The US must be to blame for Russia invading Ukraine because I said so and I’ve only read books on the ‘US bad’ side like a real intellectual!”
I actually agree with your opinion, but that’s not why you were downvoted. It was because you concluded it had to be messages in support of Palestinians that were being deleted.
Look at the comment I’m replying to. It’s net positive at this time, 7-3. The issue isn’t what you’re saying at all – this comment is incredibly sensible and very apt condemnation of Israel’s government.
The issue was the people who not only believed that, but also believed the Hamas was justified in killing civilians and everything else they did. That Hamas got a pass for it all because they were fighting Israel.
That should strike you and me as not only disgusting, but incredibly ironic. The extremes of this issue actually make the exact same argument, that X is justified in all its actions because Y wronged them. They just switch X and Y, and pick events from history that support their claim – and there are events which fit both.
“People always say this exists but it’s just a smear on the left wing, I’ve never seen it!”
I really wish the first instinct wasn’t for people to play defense, but to instead call it fucked up that people would possibly say that
Based admin team and moderation team. You guys rock
Even better, they did this because they knew it was unpopular with people and have since been trying to find a solution. That’s an excellent leadership quality.
Seems like a very reasonable compromise to deal with the situation.
Thanks again for the transparency and keeping everyone in the loop.
Lede vs lead is always a weird dichotomy to me, because the whole purpose of lede is that it isn’t supposed to be a word, right? I did some journalism in high school and I believe we were taught that lede was purposely not a word so that you could write “lede goes here” as a placeholder, and you’d be reminded of it because spell check would flag it.
So I’m never sure which to use, because it feels like using it in common discussion defeats the purpose haha. Either way though, you are right yeah.
You certainly buried the lead, Jesus Christ. Thanks for staying on top of all this and being transparent.
Huh. Thanks!
This is almost always the case. If it’s biodegradable at room temperature and pressure, it’ll be degrading once you get it.
We’re probably best off converting most of our things into industrially biodegradable products, and then having our waste go to composting plants instead of landfills.