Fear, uncertainty, and doubt about reddit though? Weird. I thought we all just didn’t like the site?

it was always mind boggling to be on a sub reddit, like say for King of the Hill and someone posts an innocent quote from the show or something and they just randomly have two downvotes for some reason.

you forgot “Men have it so much harder than women and here’s an entire fucking essay on why you bitches!!”

I mean… I like seeing that it’s clearly going way down hill and fast.

I always just try to find stuff to respond to instead of trying to think up hot takes.

I’m commenting as hard as I can on here.

Exactly, that was my point. People are upset with the perpetrators - and no one really seems to be empathizing with the victims.

Yeah I mean, I only mentioned how they do this on 4chan with region bans because they have worked. Believe or not but people don’t just get VPNs to spam CP there.

They use to do that back in like what… 2005 ish? Maybe even into like 2008, or around that era? In all my years wasted on that site, no one was just spamming CP and getting away with it. It was always taken down quickly and the bans were put in place and the spamming of illegal content stopped.

And people there definitely use VPNs but to do things like torrent or pirate usually. They aren’t all dumb, they just have bad morals in general over there.

I’m familiar with the CS sprays you’re talking about! This was an issue in other games too where you could upload images as a spray to put on a wall in a game. I believe my ex and I use to spray the image from Goatse in one of the earlier Call of Duty games.

My ex ran his own server though. If someone uploaded CP, he would just ban them.

I guarantee you that some idiot working there thought it was “quirky”

Oh right, and it wasn’t country based. I’m in a large city and only the downtown region of my city was banned. If I went back home, I could easily get on the site and post.

I see why you’re confused because you think I was saying they were allowed when they weren’t.

No, the term “shitpost” is enough to draw them in.

Today I’ve been responding a lot to the idea that CSAM is easy to fix and that for reasons unknown it just hasn’t been done with lemmy and the way it’s being done with lemmy isn’t “the right way”.

Right, it’s definitely not an easy fix and Lemmy doesn’t even operate the way other sites do but today I’m learning that using these instances seems to be easily exploitable.

The reason I mentioned region banning is because it definitely worked. There weren’t people uploading 10000 images of CSA cause if you tried to, you’d get banned so hard that you’d ruin it for other people posting near by.

I was responding to the idea of gating csam content via geoip as “yikes” because I can’t find myself personally allowing CSAM in some countries, because it’s “legal” in those countries

I agree. Honestly, if I was in charge in anyway - those countries just wouldn’t be allowed access. And that does happen. I use to work for an app where we had people working in the Philippines who couldn’t access the app itself. We had to just give them info and they would feed it to the customers. And it was because their country is blocked from viewing the app in the first place. They’re just straight up not allowed to use it there.

Like I’m totally with you. Fuck MAPs, fuck all of em. If some archaic country still participates in something that is obviously harmful to people - yeah, impose these laws on them. Tell them to fuck off until they stop this shit.

And lets be real. It’s gonna be years before they ever stop.

I don’t think you understood my original comment.

that doesn’t really matter when it comes to attacks.

Yeah I get that for sure. I mean, if I knew someone was some kind of MAP idiot who was trying to fight for the rights of pedos, I’d call them names too. Idiot seems fitting for that lol

I just want people to understand that there isn’t a solution that we all think exists in other places and not here

I agree with you on this. I agree with a lot of things you’re saying.

part of responding means you know who you are talking to. I know it can be easy to forget someone is behind the screen here but there are in fact other human beings responding to you.

Just try to be more considerate, if anything.

Region banning would prevent anyone in the area from posting. I even mentioned that I use to come across bans for other people. In the case of 4chan, when they region ban, its possible someone else will be prevented from posting.

Not to mention, does this now mean that 4 chan allows CSAM for certain regions? Yikes No its against their TOS entirely. It’s readable on their site and they do enforce rules even though they also enable people to be shitty in other ways.

Now, if you want to talk about legality in other countries - that’s a different discussion. The internet is open to the WORLD. And all I would be comfortable confirming is that it’s definitely illegal in the US where I am. I’m not gonna get into other countries where it might not be illegal. I don’t know enough about those places to be able to tell you more.

Basically a region ban would be similar to just pulling that instance down. Preventing whatever region that person was posting in would prevent them from posting as well as making local accounts to try and post more.

When I would be downtown where I live, and got a ban that wasn’t meant for me, but I was in the region that was banned, I was able to appeal my ban. In order to appeal, you have to be good at using your words because a person has to sit there and read the appeal to make the decision to unban or not. Mine always went through but I also am capable of talking things out and I’m smart enough to know when to properly explain myself.

Other people didn’t get their appeals and I would see them complain about it elsewhere.

Anyway, you don’t need to condescend to me. I’m not against what you’re saying. I agree with a lot of what you said in other comments.

I mean, I think people are downvoting you for other reasons.

Obviously I agree with you that CSAM is bad. It happened to me and ruined my fucking life for like all of my teen years and then most of my early 20s.

But calling people names is pointless. Especially when it comes off like a baseless accusation.

It’s easier to have mods just ban all NSFW content without trying to go into trying to figure out if the people in the content are consenting adults.

Yeah, I fully agree with that. If people want porn, they should go to porn sites.

I’m not the other person you responded to and I never claimed to have an apps or links.

I’m just telling you how this works on 4chan. I’m aware that’s not the entire internet obviously - your sarcasm needs work considering we are both here on Lemmy, ie, not 4chan.

If anyone on there is using these programs/apps/whatever, they’re not just gonna tell other people about them.

And as far as I know, I haven’t been on 4chan in like 3 years not but they region ban for CSAM.